Sunday, October 18, 2009

A Clean Getaway

http://sciencenewsforkids.com/articles/20081203/Note2.asp

27 comments:

Noah S. said...

I thought this article was very interesting. I liked how the author explained how the detectives tested the new oxy-clean. Even though the oxy-clean can clean up your traces, it is still an important household cleanser. I think that to prevent criminals from using this, they should create their own substance that undoes the oxy-clean by taking out the oxygen from whatever substance that you put it on. Another idea of mine that could help the detectives is that maybe they should go to the oxy-clean companies and ask them to take out whatever substance that cleans up the blood from their spray so that criminals can't use it anymore. If the companies don't agree to do this, than maybe they should ask them to make a different oxy-clean that cleans the same way, but using a different formula so it doesn't clean up blood. Another way to avoid this problem is to test using a new spray that detects the oxy-clean, so you could find where the criminal(s) sprayed.

Anonymous said...

Even though oxy clean is a household cleanser, maybe the dectectives could ask the people who sell oxy clean to keep tabs on the people who buy it, and could question anyone suspicious people who repeatedly buy oxy clean. It also depends how public it gets.
Also, as anonymous said, this article might not be very accurate because it was written in may.

Anonymous said...

After I posted my first comment, I realized something. Even though oxy clean may make the blood go away, who knows what chemicals they use to make oxy clean. Just because of this advancment, it doesn't mean that it's all natural. What if the chemicals did soemthing bad to the place where they were put, like attract ants to the spot or make the ground turn green or something like that. It may seem kind of stupid, but I was just wondering.

KentoBento411 said...

I really loved this article because I went to a CSI camp when I was 9 and I learned the different ways of finding culprits. One of them was based on blood tests and blood types. I agree with Noah, about the detective groups to make their own substance, but this will take a lot of money and time, which is the downside. However, I also liked sophie's idea about keeping tabs on who buy these oxy-cleans.

P.S. Sophie, you spelled something wrong...

Brandon B said...

I really loved this article. It can be dangerous if oxy-cleaners can clean up crime scenes, because we then cannot be sure who the dangerous culprit is. I liked how the scientists did further tests but how would they know to test on a place with (non-visible to the naked eye) blood on it in a real crime scene if you cannot see the blood. Finding blood for a crime scene is very important and criminals now have a way to clean up for their mess. BEWARE!!!!

P.S: I never knew any of this before this article, it was great.

Brandon B said...

Wow, that CSI camp sounds soooooooo awesome.

Victoria K. said...

This article was amazingly fascinating! It's structure about describing the function of the hemoglobin was great, and the overall story was interesting to a very long, long extent. (Woah. CSI camp???) I was thinking: what IF the oxy creators DID keep tabs on everyone like sopollack said... I wonder. :3

Howard said...

I agree with Noah. I am pretty sure that there is an airosol product that has a crystalline structure (I might just be remembering some idea I had). If someone were to create a chemical that could absorb the oxygen in the hemoglobin, then this might not be such of a problem. Another cure to this problem, like Noah said, is to create another formula. Man, these cleaning companies are going way too far. Now I know that those advertisements showing under the carpet they spray their product on are real.

Danielle said...

Wow! Who knew that oxy cleaners could take out blood stains? While I understand that oxy cleaners are a good household cleaner, I think that there should be a recall on the product. Anything that makes life easier for criminals and helps them get away with things should definitely taken away. I mean, would you rather have someone murder an innocent person, or would you rather have a cleaner taken away?

Lily said...

this was a really interesting article. i always hear about oxy-clean and stuff like that on commercials, but i never thought that it actually worked, and if it did work, if it was that strong. i agree with noah and think that the companies that make oxy-clean should find a different formula to make it easier for police

Brandon B said...

I agree with Danielle. While oxy-cleaners are great for stains criminals can help get away with these house hold cleaners. The companies making these cleaners should think about taking this off of the market, because would you rather lose one of your huge diamond rings or stain your old sweater? Like Lily said I actually thought that oxy-cleaners were Pseudoscience. I always thought that they didn't actually work until I read this article. If it helps clean up blood I think it can get rid of some grass stains. Also if there is a crime you can use something to pick up the chemicals in the cleaners to find the invisible to the naked eye blood rather than search all over for the wiped up blood.

Phia said...

wow. This new oxy cleaner could really cause a lot of problems for police men and detectives. The article was well done and full of information that I had not idea about. I wonder if scientists could persuade the oxy makers to leave out the oxygen part of the cleaner... or would that make the cleaner pretty much useless...?

Unknown said...

Sophia: Yeah, taking the OXYgen out of OXY would probably make it useless, but you never know!

Phia said...

What if it was a bad idea to publish that article. Criminals might have a new idea on how to make their next heist... :0... just kiddin:)

ha ha soo funny victoria. then then the oxygen in oxy would be just... GEN... how interensting, just GEN instead of oxygen.

Joosh said...

I thought it was really cool because who would now that oxy clean could clean blood. I mean it is kinda creepy.

Brandon B said...

Cleaning up blood stains can sometimes be good if you cut a bloody big at a fancy dinner but is it really worth risking the safety of the people? Also maybe somehow they can make it so the oxy cleaners don't clean up blood but everything else. That would help but seems very difficult to do.

Howard said...

I was reading this over again, and after looking at some websites, I found the answer to this problem! Apparently, there are at least two other substances that compete for the bonds: carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide. If someone were to "overload" the crime scene with these two chemicals, the oxygen might lose its bond and then the stains will be visible.
Sorry if it is already in the article, the websites servers are down.

Psalm said...

Wow! This article is really interesting to me, especially since I have seen a commercial for oxy cleaner. The guy that advertises oxy cleaner makes it sound so good, but he's wrong!

Brandon B said...

To Howard:
You did some studying

Griffin said...

If they do use oxy clean to get rid of blood, shouldn't there be traces of oxy clean left? I think the police should be able to track down who bought oxy clean from local stores. I think the author provided a lot of information.

Brandon B said...

To Griffin:
That's what I said in one of my comments.

Alex said...

I really enjoyed this article because I thought it was fascinating that you can totally erase evidence of blood. Although like the author said, it is very difficult to clean up all evidence because you have so little time. I think the author wrote this article very well, but should have included more information about the experiments the scientists performed to find out about this cleaner.

Howard said...

I forgot to mention it, except carbon monoxide binds 200 times more effeciently to hemoglobin than oxygen.

Brandon B said...

Cleaning up blood is useful but can cause very bad things.

Ara said...

This articles was really interesting, the only problem is that the oxy clean can clean up the marks instead of leaving them behind. I think there should be a type of product that only detectives use that works. Because Oxy clean is a household product, it could still have mistakes.

Ara said...

Brandon B, how can cleaning up blood be bad? Really. You could use machines. What's wrong with it? I know its kind of gross, but it is a crime scene that your working on.

Victoria K. said...

I agree/back up Brandon B and Griffin in the aspect that there must be some kind of trace of the oxy cleaner behind. If there was a trace of oxy cleaner, the police and crime investigators would be able to see who bought oxy who was shady, suspicious, or anything like that. Or they could see the traces of oxy as proof that the crime actually occured.